JFK Assassination Solved, by God (18)
EDIT….. WE WILL NEVER FORGET ! The slain – of courage, fearful, innocents, the martyred.
WE MUST ATTAIN THE CLOSURE AS CASE SOLVED AND OWE THIS AS AMERICANS AND WORLD CITIZENS TO PRESIDENT JACK KENNEDY AND ALL THE WITNESSES WHO WERE SILENCED ON EARTH…..
EDIT…. Let us not be naive here. Below shows two views, and must be sifted by known experts. I point to hard evidence by the Attending Physicians at Parkland Hospital treating President John Fitzgerald Kennedy. These are professionals and expert testimony – expert because aside of their fine reputations and experience, there observations are truth as best truth is known to medical science which is fact in any court. There has never been any doubt of what the Doctors reported and testified to. They testified to at least one wound in the throat and three to the head. Four wounds constituting CONSPIRACY. There obviously would be NO reason for them to lie and make that up as that would be absurd and contrary to the Warren Commission Report. It is what happened and there are many, many, many other witnesses that day that describe the same. Responsible HONEST Americans ! Let NO view slander these fine Citizens.
Considering the facts from Parkland Hospital by the Attending Physicians – conspiracy defined as three different angles of gunshots to the head – considering these FACTS by HONEST Doctors, if there are any errors as to “suspicious deaths” of persons “possibly connected as conspiracy witnesses” – let us sanely and rationally and of good courage and sound mind err on the side of “probably, yes – was slain as connected to the case as far as possible / probable / definate witness of a conspiracy to kill JFK.
I mean to the opposite view – grow up, how many cop / detective TV shows have Americans seen and for all these years with so many true stories [Highway Patrol, Dragnet, etc] showing how criminal murderers have so brutally tried to hide their crimes from 10 bucks in a cash register to attempting entire estates ! The JFK Assassination is NOT LOCAL CRIME. It was the slaying of the Commander in Chief, the President of the United States. Give the crime and victim its due RESPECT.
OBVIOUSLY there were great efforts and massive logistics to complete the assassination with no trial – the intention from the beginning, not to get caught under any circumstances and at ANY cost. We are not defining a simple murder of some person of least value we might place as far as finance and accomplishments – we are defining what today is described as a “state sanctioned assassination”. DO NOT BE NAIVE and quickly and sharply call everyone (the great majority) in America nuts because they believe President Kennedy was victim of this and the Warren Commission was the worst fairy tale ever told. Again, THIS IS the expert opinion of MANY EXPERTS including MEDICAL FACTS and of the so many educated Americans and all Americans able to intelligently comprehend what has taken place – and the remainder, if any, believing by having faith in the same.
NOTE that many say “why didn’t they come forth and tell what they know? “….. These must be too young and were not alive through the Times. Some did come forward and were “mysteriously” told to “shut up …. you only heard three shots …. you are mistaken…” etc. Those taking pictures and movies had them taken away – some promised return but were returned damaged. Others were directly assaulted as the American taking pictures of the Grassy Knoll a little in front of the area of the “Badge Man” suspected assassin. JFK has been noted in history as the only time the world was at DEFCON 2 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEFCON in Nuclear exchange as the beginning of World War Three itself no doubt at the Cuban Missle Crisis. The WORLD itself was peeing its pants. Now this – the assassination of JFK not very long after things calmed down. Americans were very, very, very scared – yet those many in Dallas did come forward and were “saying what they knew”. Rapidly in the manner of minutes and hours and days and months and year after year, with each event unfolding, there was always a complete sinister cloud hanging over the murder of President Kennedy. America not too long ago came out of the World War Two Era when in national solidarity lived by the creed, “Loose lips sink ships” – from the actuality or suspicion of enemy spies in the nation and to keep their mouths during casual talk or public discussion – shut such as in military support type employment and so on. Were they conspiracy NUTS ? ? ?
Quite the contrary. Many and most of the witnesses and probable slain for “knowing something” were of that age and mindset. The very report that it was a “lone nut assassin with Communist connections/background, actually a defector” captured as the probable assassin and “we have our man” only fueled almost immediately that the Soviet Union was involved. The rest were all the News Reports previous to the Dallas Trip by the President of many warnings of other “nuts” who might try something. And then Jack Ruby and the “Mafia” crime syndicate suddenly enters the reality of those Citizens who were witnesses and/or who might have “known something”. WHO THE HELL WERE THEY SUPPOSED TO COME FORWARD AND TELL ? ? ? The fear was for many they would be killed if they came forward. This was recorded on Dallas radio, published in other media. The best they could settle for was someday close will be safe enough to come forward and then the Warren Commission was suddenly released which turned into almost immediately the next level that the US Government itself in part is INVOLVED IN A COVER UP ! WHO WERE THEY TO COME FORWARD TO AND TELL ? ? ? Dallas Police were mistrusted as well at the time and locality on November 22, 1963 and forward. Again, NO NEED to sit there BRUTALLY ATTACKING these fine honest Good Americans calling Americans “conspiracy nuts”. ! ! ! Please shut up and not muddy the waters and slander Good Americans as such. Jack thanks you !
Jim Marrs’ List
WEBSITE – FULL http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/deaths.htm
Marrs List of “Mystery Deaths”
Note: information in the first four columns is from Marrs, the “Comment” is by the author of this web page.
* = Marrs considers death “particularly suspicious”
Date Name Marrs: Connection with case Marrs: Cause of death Comment
11/63 Karyn Kupcinet TV host’s daughter who was overheard telling of JFK’s death prior to 11/22/63 Murdered No corroboration for Penn Jones’ implausible “foreknowledge” claim.
12/63 Jack Zangretti Expressed foreknowledge of Ruby shooting Oswald Gunshot Victim Actually “Zangetty.” Unsourced claim by Penn Jones with no corroboration. Supposedly, member of Sinatra family was to be kidnapped.
2/64 Eddy Benavides Lookalike brother to Tippit shooting witness, Domingo Benavides Gunshot to head Innocent bystander killed in bar brawl. Death was actually in February, 1965.
2/64 Betty MacDonald* Former Ruby employee who alibied Warren Reynolds shooting suspect. Suicide by hanging in Dallas Jail Was in fact a suicide.
3/64 Bill Chesher Thought to have information linking Oswald and Ruby Heart attack No evidence he could link Ruby and Oswald. HSCA found death nonsinister
3/64 Hank Killam* Husband of Ruby employee, knew Oswald acquaintance Throat cut HSCA found death non-suspicious.
4/64 Bill Hunter* Reporter who was in Ruby’s apartment on 11/24/63 Accidental shooting by policeman Death judged non-suspicious by HSCA. Accidently shot by cop.
5/64 Gary Underhill* CIA agent who claimed Agency was involved Gunshot in head ruled suicide Was not a CIA agent. Death was indeed a suicide.
5/64 Hugh Ward* Private investigator working with Guy Banister and David Ferrie Plane crash in Mexico No evidence of connection to case.
5/64 DeLesseps Morrison* New Orleans Passenger in Ward’s plane Was mayor of New Orleans. Otherwise, unconnected to case.
8/64 Teresa Norton* Ruby employee Fatally shot Same person as Karen Carlin. Marrs listed her twice, and further she is not known to be dead.
6/64 Guy Banister* x-FBI agent in New Orleans connected to Ferrie, CIA, Carlos Marcello & Oswald Heart attack No evidence death was from foul play.
9/64 Jim Koethe* Reporter who was in Ruby’s apartment on 11/24/63 Blow to neck Judged non-suspicious by HSCA. Police suspected fight with gay lover.
9/64 C.D. Jackson “Life” magazine senior Vice President who bought Zapruder Film and locked it away Unknown No other connection to the case. Actually died of a heart attack.
10/64 Mary Pinchot JFK “special” friend whose diary was taken by CIA chief James Angleton after her death Murdered Killed in mugging. Her diary had account of affair with JFK, nothing about assassination.
1/65 Paul Mandel “Life” writer who told of JFK turning to rear when shot in throat Cancer No other connection to the case — did indeed die of cancer
3/65 Tom Howard* Ruby’s first lawyer, was in Ruby’s apartment on 11/24/63 Heart attack Had history of heart disease and was heavy drinker. HSCA found death non-sinister.
5/65 Maurice Gatlin* Pilot for Guy Banister Fatal fall No connection with assassination.
8/65 Mona B. Saenz* Texas Employment clerk who interviewed Oswald Hit by Dallas bus Circumstances not suspicious — no evidence of any reason to “silence” her.
?/65 David Goldstein Dallasite who helped FBI trace Oswald’s pistol Natural causes Every gunshop owner in Dallas, including Goldstein, provided affidavit saying he did not sell Oswald pistol. No other connection.
9/65 Rose Cheramie* Knew of assassination in advance, told of riding to Dallas with Cubans Hit/run victim Prostitute and drug addict, doubtful her statements that Kennedy was going to be killed indicated “foreknowledge.”
11/65 Dorothy Kilgallen* Columnist who had private interview with Ruby, pledged to “break” JFK case Drug overdose HSCA investigated her death, found nothing sinister.
11/65 Mrs. Earl Smith* Close friend to Dorothy Kilgallen, died two days after columnist, may have kept Kilgallen’s notes Cause unknown A fellow Journal-American columnist, she died after three-month illness. No evidence of any knowledge about the case.
12/65 William Whaley* Cab driver who reportedly drove Oswald to Oak Cliff (The only Dallas taxi driver to die on duty) Motor collision 83 year-old man in oncoming car crashed into Whaley on viaduct, killing himself and Whaley.
1966 Judge Joe Brown Presided over Ruby’s trial Heart attack Had history of heart attacks.
1966 Karen “Little Lynn” Carlin* Ruby employee who last talked with Ruby before Oswald shooting Gunshot victim Same person as Teresa Norton (see above). No reliable evidence of her death.
1/66 Earlene Roberts Oswald’s landlady Heart attack Had a history of heart disease.
2/66 Albert Bogard* Car salesman who said Oswald test drove new car Suicide Investigation of local authorities and testimony of relatives makes it clear it was indeed suicide.
6/66 Capt. Frank Martin Dallas policeman who witnessed Oswald slaying, told Warren Commission “there’s a lot to be said but probably be better if I don’t say it” Sudden cancer Immediately explained what it would be better not to say: that the Dallas police had performed poorly in allowing Oswald to be killed.
8/66 Lee Bowers Jr.* Witnessed men behind picket fence on Grassy Knoll Motor accident Investigated by HSCA, and researcher David Perry. No evidence of murder.
9/66 Marilyn “Delila” Walle* Ruby dancer Shot by husband after 1 month of marriage Shot in domestic squabble.
10/66 Lt. William Pitzer* JFK autopsy photographer who described his duty as “horrifying experience” Gunshot ruled suicide Evidence contradicts alleged claim to have photographed autopsy. No evidence of murder.
11/66 Jimmy Levens Fort Worth nightclub owner who hired Ruby employees Natural causes Casual acquaintance of Ruby’s. HSCA judged death non-suspicious.
11/66 James Worrell Jr.* Saw man flee rear of Texas School Book Depository Motor accident Told Warren Commission of seeing a shooter in Sniper’s Nest. Died in motorcycle accident.
1966 Clarence Oliver Dist. Atty. Investigator who worked Ruby case Unknown Circumstances not suspicious — no evidence of any reason to “silence” him.
12/66 Hank Suydam Life magazine official in charge of JFK stories Heart attack No other connection to the case.
1967 Leonard Pullin Civilian Navy employee who helped film “Last Two Days” about assassination One-car crash Film actually dealt with Texas trip, and had no information about assassination.
1/67 Jack Ruby* Oswald’s slayer Lung cancer (he told family he was injected with cancer cells) Inducing cancer by injecting cancer cells is medical nonsense. Ruby’s mental condition had badly deteriorated.
2/67 Harold Russell* Saw escape of Tippit killer Killed by cop in bar brawl Actually died of heart failure several hours after bar brawl.
2/67 David Ferrie* Acquaintance of Oswald, Garrison suspect and employee of Guy Banister Blow to neck (ruled accidental) Died of Berry aneurysm, natural causes.
2/67 Eladio Del Valle* Anti-Castro Cuban associate of David Ferrie being sought by Garrison Gunshot wound, ax wound to head Was involved in drug running, various criminal activities. No “axe wound.”
3/67 Dr. Mary Sherman* Ferrie associate working on cancer research Died in fire (possibly shot) No evidence of Ferrie association, died in 1964, and was not shot, but rather stabbed. Otherwise, Marrs is correct.
1/68 A. D. Bowie Asst. Dallas District Attorney prosecuting Ruby Cancer Circumstances not suspicious — no evidence of any reason to “silence” him.
4/68 Hiram Ingram Dallas Deputy Sheriff, close friend to Roger Craig Sudden cancer Circumstances not suspicious — no evidence of any reason to “silence” him.
5/68 Dr. Nicholas Chetta New Orleans coroner who ruled on death of Ferrie Heart attack No evidence he knew anything sinister. HSCA found nothing suspicious about death.
8/68 Philip Geraci* Friend of Perry Russo, told of Oswald/Shaw conversation Electrocution Note Marrs’ syntax. It was Russo, and not Geraci who told of story of “Oswald/Shaw conversation.”
1/69 Henry Delaune* Brother-in-law to coroner Chetta Murdered If Chetta’s death wasn’t suspicious, how was that of his brother-in-law supposed to be?
1/69 E.R. Walthers* Dallas Deputy Sheriff who was involved in Depository search, claimed to have found .45-cal. slug Shot by felon Made no claim of finding slug, in fact explicitly denied it. Killed trying to arrest violent suspect.
1969 Charles Mentesana Filmed rifle other than Mannlicher-Carcano being taken from Depository Heart attack Film actually shows Dallas Police shotgun, and survives to this day. Had no other knowledge of the assassination.
4/69 Mary Bledsoe Neighbor to Oswald, also knew David Ferrie Natural causes Key witness supporting Warren Commission case. Died at age 72.
4/69 John Crawford* Close friend to both Ruby and Wesley Frazier, who gave ride to Oswald on 11/22/63 Crash of private plane No evidence of foul play.
7/69 Rev. Clyde Johnson* Scheduled to testify about Clay Shaw/Oswald connection Fatally shot Was shot after end of trial, so unreliable prosecution decided not to use him. HSCA judged death non-sinister.
1970 George McGann* Underworld figure connected to Ruby friends, wife, Beverly, took film in Dealey Plaza Murdered Beverly’s claim to have been in Dealey Plaza has severe credibility problems. No other connection with the case.
1/70 Darrell W. Garner Arrested for shooting Warren Reynolds, released after alibi from Betty MacDonald Drug overdose No evidence of any connection to the assassination.
8/70 Bill Decker Dallas Sheriff who saw bullet hit street in front of JFK Natural causes Circumstances not suspicious — no evidence of any reason to “silence” him.
8/70 Abraham Zapruder Took famous film of JFK assassination Natural causes Circumstances not suspicious — no evidence of any reason to “silence” him.
12/70 Salvatore Granello* Mobster linked to both Hoffa,Trafficante, and Castro assassination plots Murdered Unfortunately, no link to Kennedy assassination plot.
1971 James Plumeri* Mobster tied to mob-CIA assassination plots Murdered Mobster getting murdered is not that unusual. Plumeri had no connection with the case.
3/71 Clayton Fowler Ruby’s chief defense attorney Unknown Circumstances not suspicious — no evidence of any reason to “silence” him.
4/71 Gen. Charles Cabell* CIA deputy director connected to anti-Castro Cubans Collapsed and died after physical at Fort Myers Circumstances not sinister, no connection with assassination.
1972 Hale Boggs* House Majority Leader, member of Warren Commission who began to publicly express doubts about findings Disappeared on Alaskan plane flight Having doubts about findings is not the same as having information “dangerous” to a conspiracy.
5/72 J. Edgar Hoover* FBI director who pushed “lone assassin” theory in JFK assassination Heart attack (no autopsy) Died at age 77. Wasn’t he running the coverup? Who killed him?
9/73 Thomas E. Davis* Gunrunner connected to both Ruby and CIA Electrocuted trying to steal wire No connection to assassination.
2/74 J.A. Milteer* Miami right-winger who predicted JFK’s death and capture of scapegoat Heater explosion Milteer’s crackpot statements are far from a “prediction” of JFK’s death.
1974 Dave Yaras* Close friend to both Hoffa and Jack Ruby Murdered Childhood friend of Ruby’s, had no contact with him in 1963.
7/74 Earl Warren Chief Justice who reluctantly chaired Warren Commission Heart failure Died at age 82. Insisted to the end that Oswald was the lone assassin.
8/74 Clay Shaw* Prime suspect in Garrison case, reportedly a CIA contact with Ferrie and E. Howard Hunt Possible cancer Garrison’s flimsy case against Shaw collapsed in 1969. Shaw died of cancer.
1974 Earle Cabell Mayor of Dallas on 11/22/63, whose brother, Gen. Charles Cabell was fired from CIA by JFK Natural causes Circumstances not suspicious — no evidence of any reason to “silence” him.
6/75 Sam Giancana* Chicago Mafia boss slated to tell about CIA-mob death plots to Senate Committee Murdered HSCA found no evidence his death was assassination related.
7/75 Clyde Tolson J. Edgar Hoover’s assistant and roommate Natural causes Died of heart disease at age 71.
1975 Allen Sweatt Dallas Deputy Sheriff involved in investigation Natural causes One of scores of deputies involved in investigation.
12/75 Gen. Earle Wheeler Contact between JFK and CIA Unknown Died of heart failure at age 67 — no connection with case.
1976 Ralph Paul Ruby’s business partner connected with crime figures Heart attack Circumstances not suspicious — no evidence of any reason to “silence” him.
4/76 James Chaney Dallas motorcycle officer riding to JFK’s right rear who said JFK “struck in the face” with bullet Heart attack Circumstances not suspicious — no evidence of any reason to “silence” him.
4/76 Dr. Charles Gregory Governor John Connally’s physician Heart attack His testimony refuted the idea that there was “too much lead” in Connally to have come from CE 399.
6/76 William Harvey* CIA coordinator for CIA-mob assassination plans against Castro Complications from heart surgery No connection with Kennedy assassination.
7/76 John Roselli* Mobster who testified to Senate Committee and was to appear again Stabbed and stuffed in metal drum HSCA found no evidence his murder was related to JFK assassination.
1/77 William Pawley* Former Brazilian Ambassador connected to Anti-Castro Cubans, crime figures Gunshot ruled suicide No connection with assassination
3/77 George DeMohrenschildt* Close friend to both Oswald and Bouvier family (Jackie Kennedy’s parents), CIA contract agent Gunshot wound ruled suicide Was not “CIA contract agent.” Had history of mental illness and previous suicide attempts. Death thoroughly investigated by the Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Office.
3/77 Carlos Prio Soccaras* Former Cuban President, money man for anti-Castro Cubans Gunshot wound ruled suicide No connection to case.
3/77 Paul Raigorodsky Business friend of George DeMohrenschildt and wealthy oilmen Natural causes Circumstances not suspicious — no evidence of any reason to “silence” him.
5/77 Lou Staples* Dallas radio Talk Show host who told friends he would break assassination case Gunshot to head, ruled suicide Was living in Oklahoma when he killed himself. Apparently unable to “break the case.”
6/77 Louis Nichols Former No. 3 man in FBI, worked on JFK investigation Heart attack No evidence of foul play.
8/77 Alan Belmont FBI official who testified to Warren Commission “Long illness” No evidence of foul play.
8/77 James Cadigan FBI document expert who testified to Warren Commission Fall in home No evidence of any foul play.
8/77 Joseph C. Ayres* Chief steward on JFK’s Air Force One Shooting accident Being Chief Steward doubtless allowed him to garner much sinister information.
8/77 Francis G. Powers* U-2 pilot downed over Russia in 1960 Helicopter crash (He reportedly ran out of fuel) Speculated Oswald may have given the Soviets information that allowed them to shoot him down. Had no evidence.
9/77 Kenneth O’Donnell JFK’s closest aide Natural causes Died of aneurysm and liver complications.
10/77 Donald Kaylor FBI fingerprint chemist Heart attack One of hundreds of FBI employees with marginal connection to assassination.
10/77 J.M. English Former head of FBI Forensic Sciences Laboratory Heart attack No evidence of foul play.
11/77 William Sullivan* Former No. 3 man in FBI, headed Division 5, counter- espionage and domestic intelligence Hunting accident Investigation by New Hampshire authorities showed no indication of foul play.
1978 C.L. “Lummie” Lewis Dallas Deputy Sheriff who arrested Mafia man Braden in Dealey Plaza Natural causes Are we supposed to assume that Braden blurted out details of plot to cop arresting him?
9/78 Garland Slack Man who said Oswald fired at his target at rifle range Unknown Died of heart disease — no connection with the case beyond “Oswald sighting” discussed in Warren Commission Report.
1/79 Billy Lovelady Depository employee said to be the man in the doorway in AP photograph Complications from heart attack Unclear what sinister information he might have revealed.
6/80 Jesse Curry Dallas Police Chief at time of assassination Heart attack Unclear why there would be any need to “silence” him almost 17 years after assassination.
6/80 Dr. John Holbrook Psychiatrist who testified Ruby was not insane Heart attack but pills, notes found Circumstances not suspicious — no evidence of any reason to “silence” him.
1/81 Marguerite Oswald Mother of accused assassin Cancer Always loudly insisted her son was innocent. Unclear what information she had that she had not already revealed.
10/81 Frank Watts Chief felony prosecutor for Dallas D.A. Natural causes Died of cancer at age 83.
1/82 Peter Gregory Original translator for Marina Oswald and Secret Service Natural causes Circumstances not suspicious — no evidence of any reason to “silence” him.
5/82 Dr. James Weston Pathologist allowed to see JFK autopsy material for HSCA Died while jogging, ruled natural causes Insisted that Kennedy was hit by two shots from behind.
8/82 Will H. Griffin FBI agent who reportedly said Oswald was “definitely” an FBI informant Cancer HSCA investigation found he had said no such thing.
10/82 W. Marvin Gheesling FBI official who helped supervise JFK investigation “Long illness” Circumstances not suspicious — had only minor role in investigation.
3/84 Roy Kellerman Secret Service agent in charge of JFK limousine Unknown Died of heart failure at age 69.
QUOTED “When the House Select Committee on Assassinations wished to study the “mysterious deaths” associated with the assassination, they asked the Congressional Research Service — a division of the Library of Congress — to investigate a list of such deaths from published sources. The resulting CRS report is merely preliminary, but it shows the appalling number of factual errors in the conspiracy books pushing the notion, and the utterly non-mysterious nature of most of the deaths. Click on the name below to see the relevant section of the CRS report.
Introduction to Report
Albert Guy Bogard
Lee Bowers, Jr.
Nicholas J. Chetta, M.D.
Thomas Hale (Tom) Howard
William (Bill) Hunter
Thomas Henry (Hank) Killam
Levens (first name unknown)
Nancy Jane Mooney (also known as Betty McDonald)
Marilyn April Walle, a.k.a. Marilyn Moon, Marilyn Magyar, Delilah
William W. Whaley
James R. Worrell
A Person Not on the List
Roger Craig told a variety of “interesting” stories about the assassination, most of which clearly indicated a conspiracy. So it might seem quite logical that a conspiracy would want to silence him. And indeed Craig’s death at age 39 in 1975 by suicide (conspiracy books usually put quotes around “suicide”) might seem suspicious. But do the details of his death actually seem suspicious? Let’s Just Think About This, OK?
Excerpted from “The Case of the Grassy Knoll: The Romance of Conspiracy” by John Kaplan; printed in The Historian As Detective, Winks, editor; originally published as “The Assassins” in Stanford Law Review (May 1967).
[Regarding the “mysterious” deaths of “witnesses” to the assassination], even the most cursory examination of the stories shows how essentially foolish they are. A good many of the deaths hardly seem mysterious in that they were caused by auto accidents, heart attacks, and other phenomena that afflict our entire population. Moreover, before we could tell whether the number of these deaths is in any way unusual, we would have to know the number of equally “mysterious” deaths that occurred to people completely unconnected with the WR. But even apart from any statistical refutation, the theory that a set of conspirators is now devoted to wiping out a host of unimportant witnesses is almost too silly to be put forth. There is not the slightest indication that any of the “victims” have had anything to tell that they had not already told, and indeed the deaths seem concentrated among those who bore only the most peripheral relation to the assassination. When one stops to consider that almost each one of the “mysterious” deaths requires the recruitment of at least one and often several new conspirators, it would seem that, like the pyramid club, the conspiracy would be getting bigger and bigger rather than smaller. One would think that in light of what had happened to those who knew too much it would get very difficult to recruit new members into the conspiracy. Most important, however, it is hard to say why the supposed killers are taking whatever chances these murders entail when it is so obvious that, whoever the conspirators are, they have already gotten off scot-free.” UNQUOTED – G -A-R-B-A-G-E-!